[Accessibleweb] Minutes - AccessibleWeb@U meeting - Jan. 18, 2007, Bill Corrigan

Rick Ells rells at cac.washington.edu
Tue Jan 23 11:24:16 PST 2007


AccessibleWeb - Jan. 18, 2007
-  Guest Speaker:  Bill Corrigan - Accessibility of Emerging Techologies
     -  Emerging technologies project manager, working with Oren
        Sreebny, C&C Emerging Technologies Director
-  As a user of both acccessibility and technology, Bill will be
    shepherding both in his new job with C&C
     -  How are these technologies different from current ones?
     -  What ways do they break accessibility frameworks?
     -  Moving forward, what do we need to do to ensure they will serve
            differently abled people?
-  The UW used to be a leader in technology, but has fallen behind
    somewhat
     -  Emerging Technology Group is looking at where we are going
         -  Emerging Technology Group is working from three ideas
             -  Research community
                 -  A researcher's  colleagues are other people in their
                    field, not just people next door
                 -  Lazowska - "All science is cyberscience." Modern
                    science uses computer technology
             -  Outsourcing is always an option
                 -  The best solutions for some of our needs may be to
                    partner with services outside
             -  Collaboration is key.
         -  The Emerging Technologies Group is starting out on two
            projects
             -  iTunes U
                 -  University can establish a podcasting site on Apple
                    site
                     -  Hosts content that is accessible through iTunes
                        interface
                     -  Complimentary to other podcasting initiatives
                        around campus
                     -  Focus will be on public content for now
             -  Outsourcing Alumni Services
                 -  MyUW.net currently provides email services for
                    alumni, built on UW systems
                     -  Exploring Google, Windows Live as alternatives
                        for providing similar service
     -  Looking at emerging technologies
         -  Mobile Devices
             -  More and more students come to campus with mobile phones
                 -  Fastest growing trend among students is mobile
                    devices
         -  Social Networking
             -  Spacebook, MySpace
             -  65% of teens have MySpace site
             -  Students use of social networks to communicate
             -  Students use email to talk to older people
             -  But students use voice and text messaging to communicate
                with each other
         -  Software that pulls information to you and aggregates
            information for you
             -  RSS
             -  Search alerts
     -  In what ways do these things break accessibility frameworks
         -  Problems in how they are used
         -  Size is an issue
         -  Push more content to smaller screens
         -  Language - how we use it
             -  In text messaging...
                 -  Spelling not critical
                 -  speed
                 -  abbreviations
             -  Technology could be used to bring more people with
                different langauages together
-  Discussion - What do we need to do going forward with accessibility
    issues
     -  Blind student acquired phone that talks - announces who is
        calling, tells what letter is pushed. However...
         -  Buttons are small
         -  Buttons, whether physical or graphical, change functionality
            depending on context
     -  Cerebral palsy student does not have dexterity to use small
        keyboards
     -  Apple is not addressing accessibility well
         -  iPod
             -  interface gives no vocalization
             -  New iPhone interface is graphical - no tactile interface
                at all
         -  Shuffle
             -  very small, no display, very simple controls
     -  Disabled students do not seem too concerned
     -  If you move forward on using podcast medium as part of your
        education process, you can exclude people
         -  Without a transcript you are excluding the deaf
     -  The university should harness its computing power to make
        content available in a readable form
         -  It is not the recipients job to make it usable
         -  The university should make conversion to alternative forms
            (audio to text transcription)  part of basic support
            services for faculty and students
     -  Designing services
         -  You can design to common denominators
         -  You can design for special needs
         -  Managers and developers do not want to do multiple versions
            of a site or service.
         -  Would be good to have approaches, tools, and frameworks that
            address both needs
     -  By using standards, we can produce content that is
        understandable by assistive technologies
         -  People do not know how to use the tools.
     -  Big transitional education problem within the University
         -  Everyone is stuck in a transitional mode in the last  years
         -  We do not train our professionals in developing accessible
            applications
         -  In worrying about getting the product out, developers often
            forget about accessibility
         -  Not thinking about whether applications can work with mobile
            devices
         -  Because a method is easier to do does not mean it addresses
            the goals of the university
             -  May have to forego some methods
         -  Could be more cohesiveness in Web developer population
             -  Hard to contact with other peer developers
             -  Media Relations is interested in getting developers in
                contact with each other
         -  One .com company does have a very centralized way of
            building software, including its Web services
             -  The company had a big project to make everything
                accessible
                 -  Seen as a project, did not have an ongoing character
                 -  Is it just one's expert's job, or is it everyone's
                    job?
         -  Accessibility basics
             -  Summarized at
                http://www.washington.edu/computing/accessible/
             -  Alt tags
             -  Assistive Technology (AT) uses the standards
                 -  If your content fits the standards, AT can work with
                    it
             -  Can you use the page without using the mouse?
             -  Label tag for form fields
             -  Tables, use th for column and row headings
             -  Train people that these methods are good to do ,period.
                without even thinking about accessibility
             -  Work with software manufacturers to build features in to
                create accessible content
         -  Would it be helpful to revisit the idea of campus-wide
            standards
             -  Some pages are required by law to be accessible, if
                built with Federal money
             -  Who is going to be the cop
                 -  Texas has requirements, but is a lot more top down
                    in managment style
                 -  Here at the UW, the rule is "If you want it, do it
                    yourself"
                     -  Fosters continuing exploration of methods and
                        approaches
                     -  Hard to coordinate
             -  Shocking to not see central standards or required use of
                CMS at the UW
         -  UW is diverse, decentralized
             -  The Internet is becoming how we are doing business
             -  A CMS is one way to achieve consistency and
                standards-based design.
         -  There is a fine line between what should be standardized and
            what should be flexible
             -  No one wants us to set up our own telephone systems
                 -  We are better off using standard technology and
                    externally provided service
             -  How can good use of technology, such as XHTML and CSS,
                be supported and fostered
                 -  Could centralize Web management, or Web design
                     -  Finances is a big part of this. Much cheaper to
                        hire a grad student than hire Publication
                        Services
                 -  Centralization can free up time and resources
                     -  Nebula is a service that can free up people for
                        other tasks who otherwise would be doing
                        computer management
             -  CMS have a variety of benefits
                 -  Users see more consistent interface, structure, and
                    function
                 -  Using a CMS can help focus roles
                     -  Content developers do not have to think about
                        look/feel/function
             -  As we try rich media, the only way to achieve consistent
                accessibility across is by consistent use of specific
                toolsets and development frameworks.
             -  Technological methods vary in how flexible they are
                 -  XML/XSLT based methods can transform content for use
                    in a variety of delivery methods (graphical browser,
                    PDA, mobile)
             -  Support staff wants to use chat in supporting users.
                Users see it as an appropriate method to get information.
         -  Services
             -  Software Maintenance Inc, which makes DragonDictate  and
                Naturally Speaking, has a server product that can read
                MP3 files
                 -  For voice to text to work, we need to learn how to
                    make good MP3 files
                 -  Small media devices have not put media producers out
                    of work, but without care and skill, they produce
                    poor quality video and sound.
                 -  Tape might catch the lecturer, but may not capture
                    questions from audience
                 -  Integrating PowerPoint into audio is a problem
             -  What are the legal ramifications of publishing
                presentation in a whole different form
                 -  We have professors who would not be happy to have
                    their lectures in transcript form.
                 -  Want to encourage faculty to adopt these technologies
             -  Need services that can deal with the special
                vocabularies used here. Voice to text converters may not
                know about specialized language.
         -  Some forms of content work very well in podcasting
             -  Guest lecturer giving prepared presentation works well
             -  We provide service through classroom support for filming
                lectures
         -  How can we support mini social networks in each class
             -  Catalyst tools (catalyst.washington.edu) provide much of
                that
             -  Class mail list is currently outside of Catalyst tools
             -  Podcasting is still in test mode, no one knows how to
                deal with it well enough
         -  Should course content be online?
             -  Students want it, faculty do not
             -  Studies show podcasting of lectures does not affect who
                attends the class
             -  Faculty concerned that once the content is out there,
                the administration could hire much less skilled lecturer
                to give it.
-  Dan now has licenses for using JAWS
     -  Has five shared licenses
     -  Talk to Dan (danc at u.washington.edu) about how to get set up to
        use AJAX.
     -  Do not hog a license. Use JAWS long enough to test your pages,
        then exit it.



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