[Alpine-info] Alpine display problem

[Hisashi T Fujinaka]

On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Mike Miller wrote:


> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

>

>> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Benjamin R. Haskell wrote:

>> 

>> :) > To me this is reasonable. If I unselect a message, I would probably

>> :) > expect to find the cursor in a selected message, rather than an

>> :) > unselected one. After all, I am not interested in the unselected

>> :) > message anymore, and am interested in a selected message. Probably

>> :) > what alpine is doing by zooming is the easiest way to get that

>> :) > behavior. It seems like it is more effective (if, say I will select

>> :) > messages by selecting all and unselecting those that I do not want

>> :) > to).

>> :)

>> :) I would agree *if* alpine were in zoomed mode when that message was

>> :) unselected. (e.g. See what happens if you ':'-deselect a message when

>> :) not all messages are selected, and you're not in zoomed mode. No

>> :) auto-zoom.)

>> 

>> I thought that this was the behavior that we were discussing, and not what 

>> happens when you just "unselect" a message. My comment was limited to that.

>

> I didn't understand it at first, but if you watch the top of your Alpine 

> screen you'll see that when the last message in a folder has been selected 

> using ":", the folder is not autozoomed, but if you then unselect one 

> message, it is autozoomed and that one message disappears from the index. 

> That seems is a little surprising.

>

>

>> I still think the current behavior is correct, but since others disagree, I 

>> guess a new configuration should be in place. I guess something like

>>

>>  [X] Do not auto zoom on unselect

>> 

>> should work.

>

>

> Why do we want an option that causes Alpine to autozoom on unselect?  I agree 

> that this isn't a major issue, but as a minor issue, why not have no autozoom 

> on unselect.  It seems like an odd choice.  If someone wants to zoom at such 

> a strange moment, they can use their little finger on their left hand to hit 

> the z key.  For other users, the autozoom on unselect is bound to cause 

> confusion.  Adding "Do not autozoom on unselect" as an option means that you 

> have to explain it which creates unnecessary work.


This is my point that I'm arguing with Eduardo. This is the new behavior
(zooming after all are selected then one is unselected)that I was
trying to point out.

Eduardo can try to nitpick my argument, but this is the behavior which I
am objecting to (autozoom at this time). The behavior is definitely
different than before. I don't care when it was first in Pine, this is
new to me, and Eduardo is being a dick.

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