[Alpine-info] Alpine display problem

[Mike Miller]

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008, [ISO-8859-15] Dirk Stöcker wrote:


> That's what we talk about. The behaviour that selecting all messages with ':' 

> produces extremely strange results, which should not be default.


I don't even think it should be an option.  Let people hit 'z'.



> I now disabled AutoZoom to get back pine behaviour, so it's no longer an 

> issue for me, but I still think it is no good default setting to have 

> such thing as AutoZoom.


This is a completely separate issue from the behavior of ":" described 
above, and I don't agree with your thinking on this.  If a new user does a 
search for a few messages in a big index, he usually won't see any of the 
selected messages -- where are they?  With autozoom, he sees them.



> And from a beginners point of view the Zooming is unituitive. The little 

> "ZOOMED" text in the title line is not visible, except your search for 

> it and there is no other idication of the zoomed state.


On this point I think you are right.  This can easily be improved.  I just 
did a search that selected two messages.  After hitting 'z' to zoom I see 
this at the bottom of the screen:

[In Zoomed Index of 2 messages.  Use "Z" to restore regular Index]

That is helpful, but I had just used "Z" so I at least knew something 
about the zoom feature.  Strangely, if I do the search again with 
auto-zoom turned on, this is all I see at the bottom of the screen:

[Select matched 2 messages!]

If I didn't know about auto-zoom, I might not realize that I am in a 
zoomed index.  I think something like this would be a better choice after 
auto-zoom:

[Zoomed Index of 2 selected messages.  Use "Z" to restore regular Index]

Mike