[Alpine-info] Extensions needed for proper crypto support.

[Eduardo Chappa]

On Mon, 8 Jun 2009, Mark Crispin wrote:


:) > I know that. But my point was to point what the current situation is. 

:) > I was simply talking about the current situation, not a ficticious 

:) > reality.

:) 

:) So you, an ex-student who was never a team member, somehow has 

:) exclusive knowledge of the current situation?


Never said that. Re-read what I replied to, then you will figure out what 
I meant to say.


:) > If this development was done in a place where other people could 

:) > write to it, then I would be up-to-date, and so would many other 

:) > people. Maybe some of them would like to contribute code.

:) 

:) What makes you think that UW will EVER create a public write 

:) repository?


Never implied that.


:) What makes you think that they would want such a thing?


Never implied that.


:) What makes you think that they should have such a thing?


Never implied that either. 



:) > :) The latest code is Alpine 2.00.  Maybe UW has made a few hacks 

:) > :) since then, but that is no different than your hacks, or RedHat's 

:) > :) hacks, or Debian's hacks, or my hacks.

:) > No, the latest code is Alpine 2.01. There are a few bug fixes, 

:) > mainly. Not hacks.

:) 

:) You don't know what "hack" means, but I won't waste my time instructing 

:) you. Don't you dare sass me on this point.


I know what a hack is, and as many words it has many senses in which it 
can be used. I do not see why you use that language with me.


:) > :) They gave you, a former student who was never a staff member, a 

:) > :) permanent staff web page.  *My* staff web page was deleted.

:) > You never seem to get over this. Ok, here we go again. Let me explain 

:) > it to you again.

:) 

:) Your "explanation" is funny because it is completely divorced from 

:) reality.


Not at all. 


:) You were never a staff member.  You got special, privileged, access to 

:) create a staff.washington.edu web page.  I was at the meeting when that 

:) was decided.


It is correct that I got a special privilege. I never claimed otherwise. 
Don't you understand that I am very thankful that UW did that for me? 
Never said anything that contradicted what you said. But what you don't 
know is that you were not at the place when it was decided that this 
account continued. Someday UW will close this account, I hope that will 
make you happy and stop harassing me about this.


:) Nor is myuw.net is for ex-employees.


Really? didn't know. Too bad.


:) > I am sure that if you wanted to do something similar, that they would 

:) > consider it, and very likely you would be provided with such account.

:) 

:) Hah!  If you really believe that, you are on drugs.


Not really. That's not my thing.


:) > You should not be preaching about what you are not doing.

:) 

:) If my advice to this list is unwanted, I will unsubscribe.


Are you calling advice about becoming a developer what you said to the 
person that mentioned the Pine license. That seemed like a rant, and you 
have given many of them to me. That's not advice, that's opinion, and you 
are entitled to having one, just do not believe that others have to agree 
with you because you think strongly about something. You have valid 
reasons to think your way. Others can also think strongly and/or 
differently, and they have their good reasons too.


:) I already know that advice to you is futile.


Despite what you say, or the image you want people to believe about me, I 
am a very reasonable person. It is fine if you don't like me. Just stop 
pretending that you know it all and I know nothing.  I will take your good 
advice when it's good. The bad one will disappear in the aether.

-- 
Eduardo
http://staff.washington.edu/chappa/alpine/