[Alpine-info] Re: Gmail server problem with Alpine
mbmiller+l at gmail.com
Mon Mar 9 12:38:20 PDT 2009
On Mon, 9 Mar 2009, Matt Ackeret wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Mar 2009, Mike Miller wrote:
>> It helps a lot but it is really pretty complicated. I just want my
>> email to work and not mess things up so that the recipient sees
>> something different than the sender. Strangely, that is very hard to
> It seems to me like turning on:
> [X] Do Not Send Flowed Text
> very easily solves the problem. One may be accused of Ludditism because
> of it, but users of text-based email programs "in this day and age" are
> probably already generally thought of as that, so no extra problem is
> caused. I definitely have that turned on, for generally the same
> reasons you do.
I decided not to go that route for a couple of reasons. One reason is
that many more people these days, even me, are using little devices to
read email -- things like iPhones or Treos. The format=flowed helps wrap
the lines nicely for those little devices.
The second reason is that I figured yesterday that I can get the
formatting I want in my little text tables, probably for every recipient,
simply by ensuring that every line begins with two or more spaces. It
isn't hard to add a little more padding, so that's what I'll do.
So, based on my recent findings as presented in the immediately preceeding
paragraph, I will retract my claim above that it "is very hard to arrange"
(for sender and recipient to see the same thing) because I think padding
with extra spaces when needed will do well enough for me.
My guess is that many of our problems with email are really caused by a
bunch of powerful competing software developers (big companies, mostly)
that all want to control standards and intentionally fail to interoperate
We may seem to be luddites for using a text-based interface, but
plain-text email is a really good thing and recipients will always be able
to read it quite easily. Few things annoy me more than a 100KB MS-Word
attachment with simple unformatted text in it, especially when it is
distributed on a list to hundreds of recipients. More people need to get
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