[Alpine-info] UTF-8 test message for your viewing (dis?)pleasure

[Mike Miller]

On Wed, 18 Mar 2009, Mark Crispin wrote:


> What is so difficult for you to understand?

>

> Changing the guess fixes one case and breaks others.


I have no reason to doubt you and I understand what you are saying, but 
what do we know about what people are using and how often their experience 
is improved by enabling use-system-translation?  The compromise that is 
made in the code should depend on which terminals and fonts are being used 
in the wild.  We also should want to tell people what we know will work 
well so that they can choose their terminal and font to get a good alpine 
experience -- don't you agree?

It might be worthwhile to develop some list of terminals where 
use-system-translation seems to work better.  For example, with the UTF-8 
text file I've been sending around, on the rxvt-unicode (urxvt) terminal 
and font 8x13 (lucida?) enabling use-system-translation worked much better 
for me than with it disabled.

For me, I had to go to a screen width of 142 characters to avoid wrapping 
when use-system-translation was disabled, but it was fine at only 83 
characters when use-system-translation was enabled.  So this must be one 
of the cases where the effect of not choosing to enable 
use-system-translation is quite devastating.

Mike