[Alpine-info] bouncing emails changes From and Date headers

[damion.yates at gmail.com]

On Thu, 8 Apr 2010, Jeff Bastian wrote:


> On Wed, 7 Apr 2010, Mike Miller wrote:

> > This is really weird, Jeff.  I'm going to send to you the message I

> > bounced to my yahoo account along with its full header as an

> > attachment to the next message.  I don't see why it is doing this to

> > you and not to me. It seems familiar to me, though, like I was

> > having this kind of problem once, but it might have been something

> > different, like changing my email address in Alpine without

> > registering it on Gmail.

> > 

> > So, when you bounce the message, what address are you bouncing from?

> > I think it has to be one of the addresses registered with your gmail

> > account or you'll have a problem -- maybe that's what's happening.

> 

> I'm just using my normal gmail address, no aliases or anything fancy

> like Google Apps.


I'm using a apps for your domain account to bounce emails and I'm not
longer seeing the email address changed to my own when I bounce
 

> Maybe some of their SMTP servers have different configurations?


This sould be right, but I'd assume it's something they're rolling out
and that should eventually finish.


> I noticed alpine flashed in the status bar that it was going through

> 1e100.net (some of Google's new servers are in this domain now).

> Maybe 1e100.net does things slightly differently?  I'm just

> speculating now...


That's just rev.dns you still connect to smtp.googlemail.com (even if
apps for your domain).
 

> In any case, it's not a problem with alpine.


Yes this was specific to gmail.  I definitely saw it myself but didn't
worry too much as normally I bounce to other addresses of my own, or
don't mind people replying to me on something I've bounced (which I use
mainly to preserve attachments and stuff in the header).

I guess this is a change of policy, it's unlikely to have remained an
obvious bug for this long and was more likely to combat spam.

Damion