[Alpine-info] alpine 2.00 disabling the greeting text

[FHDATA]

FHDATA wrote, On 07/21/2010 03:13 PM:

> Benjamin R. Haskell wrote, On 07/21/2010 11:42 AM:

>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2010, FHDATA wrote:

>>

>>> Jeffrey Bastian wrote, On 07/20/2010 02:25 PM:

>>>> On 07/20/2010 03:04 PM, FHDATA wrote:

>>>>> Is there a way to disable the greeting text users see when they

>>>>> launch alpine for the first time?

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> alpine uses the last-version-used variable in your ~/.pinerc file to

>>>> determine which message to display (first time user, major version

>>>> upgrade, etc.)

>>>>

>

> =6.00

>>>>

>>>> pine 1.0 through 4.x are versions 1.0 through 4.x (no surprises),

>>>> alpine 1.x is version 5.x, and alpine 2.x is 6.x.

>>>>

>>>> Jeff

>>>

>>> I would like to implement that system-wide for all users.

>>>

>>> According to paragraph below, if I set new-version-threshold=7.00

>>> the greeting text should not appear. Alas, it does ....

>>>

>>> I do it in /etc/pine.conf and /etc/pine.conf.fixed to no avail.

>>>

>>> I actually did try many variations& permutation of values for

>>> new-version-threshold (1,1.00,2,2.0,7.0,9.99 ,etc)... Maybe my

>>> "version string" is wrong?

>>

>> Maybe it can't be overridden systemwide (which makes sense).

> I am under impression that where applicable, as is the case for

> last-version-used, tech-note states that it is for (personal)

> ~/.pinerc and that when I see nothing in that regard for the

> new-version-threshold then I assume it is for system-wide.

> Maybe I am reading it incorrectly.

>

>

>> Can you

>> put it in a per-user .pinerc in a skeleton dir? (I assume not - since

>> you probably have existing users.)

>

> true.

>

>

>>

>> What are you trying to accomplish, though, in the first place?

> we have a populous pine users and some are not technically savvy

> and may "freak out" seeing the message ....

>

>

>>

>> Alpine handles character sets much differently than Pine. It would be

>> useful for your users to know that they're using a different program

>> than they might assume they are. (e.g. Why am I seeing question marks

>> instead of smart quotes in emails?)

>

>

>

>>

>> And unless they're forced to use Pine/Alpine, I'd think a screen like

>> that wouldn't be 'scary' for someone who uses Pine/Alpine in the first

>> place.

>>

>

>

> Generally, it'd be nice to do something about the greeting text but

> it's not the end of the world thing....

>

> Considering that (to me) new-version-threshold is clearly meant to be

> used by sys admins, I really would like to know why is it broken

> or [correct way of using it ;-)]


This is just an update.

I did compile the source. Similar to rpm, the compiled version of
alpine also ignores the directive  new-version-threshold in pine.conf
and/or  pine.conf.fixed ... Any config change at the source-code you 
know I can do to disable the greeting text, let me know.

thank you,
f,


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> Thanks,

> f,

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