[Alpine-info] alpine 2.00 disabling the greeting text
FHDATA
fhdata at unm.edu
Wed Jul 21 14:13:07 PDT 2010
Benjamin R. Haskell wrote, On 07/21/2010 11:42 AM:
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2010, FHDATA wrote:
>
>> Jeffrey Bastian wrote, On 07/20/2010 02:25 PM:
>>> On 07/20/2010 03:04 PM, FHDATA wrote:
>>>> Is there a way to disable the greeting text users see when they
>>>> launch alpine for the first time?
>>>
>>>
>>> alpine uses the last-version-used variable in your ~/.pinerc file to
>>> determine which message to display (first time user, major version
>>> upgrade, etc.)
>>>
=6.00
>>>
>>> pine 1.0 through 4.x are versions 1.0 through 4.x (no surprises),
>>> alpine 1.x is version 5.x, and alpine 2.x is 6.x.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>
>> I would like to implement that system-wide for all users.
>>
>> According to paragraph below, if I set new-version-threshold=7.00
>> the greeting text should not appear. Alas, it does ....
>>
>> I do it in /etc/pine.conf and /etc/pine.conf.fixed to no avail.
>>
>> I actually did try many variations& permutation of values for
>> new-version-threshold (1,1.00,2,2.0,7.0,9.99 ,etc)... Maybe my
>> "version string" is wrong?
>
> Maybe it can't be overridden systemwide (which makes sense).
I am under impression that where applicable, as is the case for
last-version-used, tech-note states that it is for (personal)
~/.pinerc and that when I see nothing in that regard for the
new-version-threshold then I assume it is for system-wide.
Maybe I am reading it incorrectly.
> Can you
> put it in a per-user .pinerc in a skeleton dir? (I assume not - since
> you probably have existing users.)
true.
>
> What are you trying to accomplish, though, in the first place?
we have a populous pine users and some are not technically savvy
and may "freak out" seeing the message ....
>
> Alpine handles character sets much differently than Pine. It would be
> useful for your users to know that they're using a different program
> than they might assume they are. (e.g. Why am I seeing question marks
> instead of smart quotes in emails?)
>
> And unless they're forced to use Pine/Alpine, I'd think a screen like
> that wouldn't be 'scary' for someone who uses Pine/Alpine in the first
> place.
>
Generally, it'd be nice to do something about the greeting text but
it's not the end of the world thing....
Considering that (to me) new-version-threshold is clearly meant to be
used by sys admins, I really would like to know why is it broken
or [correct way of using it ;-)]
Thanks,
f,
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