[Alpine-info] alpine 2.00 disabling the greeting text

FHDATA fhdata at unm.edu
Wed Jul 21 14:13:07 PDT 2010


Benjamin R. Haskell wrote, On 07/21/2010 11:42 AM:

> On Wed, 21 Jul 2010, FHDATA wrote:

>

>> Jeffrey Bastian wrote, On 07/20/2010 02:25 PM:

>>> On 07/20/2010 03:04 PM, FHDATA wrote:

>>>> Is there a way to disable the greeting text users see when they

>>>> launch alpine for the first time?

>>>

>>>

>>> alpine uses the last-version-used variable in your ~/.pinerc file to

>>> determine which message to display (first time user, major version

>>> upgrade, etc.)

>>>


=6.00

>>>

>>> pine 1.0 through 4.x are versions 1.0 through 4.x (no surprises),

>>> alpine 1.x is version 5.x, and alpine 2.x is 6.x.

>>>

>>> Jeff

>>

>> I would like to implement that system-wide for all users.

>>

>> According to paragraph below, if I set new-version-threshold=7.00

>> the greeting text should not appear. Alas, it does ....

>>

>> I do it in /etc/pine.conf and /etc/pine.conf.fixed to no avail.

>>

>> I actually did try many variations& permutation of values for

>> new-version-threshold (1,1.00,2,2.0,7.0,9.99 ,etc)... Maybe my

>> "version string" is wrong?

>

> Maybe it can't be overridden systemwide (which makes sense).

I am under impression that where applicable, as is the case for
last-version-used, tech-note states that it is for (personal)
~/.pinerc and that when I see nothing in that regard for the
new-version-threshold then I assume it is for system-wide.
Maybe I am reading it incorrectly.



> Can you

> put it in a per-user .pinerc in a skeleton dir? (I assume not - since

> you probably have existing users.)


true.



>

> What are you trying to accomplish, though, in the first place?

we have a populous pine users and some are not technically savvy
and may "freak out" seeing the message ....



>

> Alpine handles character sets much differently than Pine. It would be

> useful for your users to know that they're using a different program

> than they might assume they are. (e.g. Why am I seeing question marks

> instead of smart quotes in emails?)





>

> And unless they're forced to use Pine/Alpine, I'd think a screen like

> that wouldn't be 'scary' for someone who uses Pine/Alpine in the first

> place.

>



Generally, it'd be nice to do something about the greeting text but
it's not the end of the world thing....

Considering that (to me) new-version-threshold is clearly meant to be
used by sys admins, I really would like to know why is it broken
or [correct way of using it ;-)]


Thanks,
f,






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