[Alpine-info] Re: Insert pound sign [pico vs vim][gucharmap]

[Joe(theWordy)Philbrook]

It would appear that on Apr 11, Werner Scheinast did say:


> On 08.04.11 Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:

> > Sometimes I run into characters that I don't see in the "Codepage layout

> > chart found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO/IEC_8859-1.

> >

> > Could someone identify these {and if possible tell me how to generate them

> > (insert rather than paste) in either pico or vim

> >

> > Also I'm curious if there is an latin-1 tutorial chart someplace that

> > lists one character per line with more information such as  a description of

> > what each character if commonly used for...

> 

> Maybe not really what you want, but for the "Compose" functionality in X

> you find the table under "/usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose".

> You can "less" this text file and search ("/") for any of those

> characters. You will find only those that can be produced by a compose

> sequence using the Multi_key. This is the case only for the third of your

> characters:

> <Multi_key> <period> <equal>            : "•"   enfilledcircbullet # BULLET


Well that's interesting. And I thank you for identifying that particular
character. In another reply, ‘Jeff Bastian’ told me about vim's:help digraph
page which includes a table of input codes with around the same level of detail.
And that vim includes an ^k input mode key that works similar to that
Multi_key you described. I don't know about the Multi-key, But vim's
digraph functions are currently based on ‘RFC1345 mnemonics’.and include
about 1300 characters on my Arch Linux system. Worthy of note however, that
particular BULLET character seems to be missing from vim's digraph table.
Incidentally I happened to remember that midnight commanders built in editor
«which I rarely use» displays the decimal value of the character under the
cursor. So I learned that particular bullet is «character 8226» and Vim's
chart skips from 8225 to 8229. «wonder why...» But Most any character I
could possibly want is there and since the only time I'd want to insert
them I'd be in vim anyway, I think I'll use ^k most of the time. And if I
really want that durned bullet, I can enable a "compose" key and use that
instead... 

   •It seems that ^k and a Multi_ key can coexist in the same vim session. ☺ ) 
 


> Better is the "gucharmap" application of the Gnome desktop. You may find

> this package under System/GUI/GNOME in your package manager. It is a

> graphical application in which you can select a font, search for

> characters and get some additional information for each character. You

> can switch the "View" to "By Unicode Block" to get a better context of the

> characters. Using it I found:

> 

> ┌	BOX DRAWINGS LIGHT DOWN AND RIGHT

> ┐	BOX DRAWINGS LIGHT DOWN AND LEFT

> •	BULLET

> П	CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER PE

> 

> This should be enough to clarify the usage of these four characters,

> right?


Well to tell you the truth, I'm seldom pleased with gui applications...
That's one of the reasons the three applications I MUST have in order to
stand working with a Linux are vim  «Note: NOT gvim» alpine, & mc. Next
comes the e16 or e17 window managers without which I wouldn't bother doing
a startx...

So I think I'll stick with vim's digraph functions and the Multi_key...
«Now that I know about them anyway»

Thanks again!

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