[Alpine-info] Alpine is Dead?
peale at physics.ucsb.edu
Wed Apr 27 08:25:56 PDT 2011
I have had a problem with alpine including attachments in forwarded emails
if they are too big, say exceeding a few hundred KBytes. The email gets
forwarded without the attachment. I have Alpine version 1. But a colleague
has alpine version 2, which seems to have no problems in forwarding
attachments exceeding at least a MByte. A search on the web revealed no
procedure for downloading a new version of alpine, which must be indicative
of the waning support. I got no response from Eduardo Chappa when I asked
for downloading procedures, which I take it to mean there are no such
procedures. I like alpine, so it will be sad to abandon it for an otherwise
less capable but consistently reliable and regularly updated email server.
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011, Benjamin R. Haskell wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2011, Peter Beckman wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2011, Benjamin R. Haskell wrote:
>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2011, Peter Beckman wrote:
>>>> Sent-mail saved folders is broken.
>>>> There are some issues with screen + alpine.
>>> Care to elaborate?
>> Local folders in #mc/INBOX.
>> sent-mail 2001
>> rc rr
>> sent-mail-feb-2011 sent-mail-feb-2011-nov-2010
>> In Screen anything that is red holds up the terminal when alpine is run from
>> within screen. Can't figure out if it is a screen problem or an alpine
>> problem, but it is mad annoying!
> Oh, I thought you meant there were two different issues. Looks like a
> terminfo/termcap problem, which doesn't narrow down the guilty party. What's
> the containing terminal emulator? (xterm? rxvt-unicode? PuTTY?)
>>>> I've not seen anything on any alpine list.
>>> The list hasn't been dead. Several relatively-recent threads.
>> I just joined alpine-info, alpine-alpha hasn't been active.
> At some point around 2008 or 2009(?) alpine-alpha was deprecated in favor of
> alpine-info. Sometime after Alpine stopped being versioned with varying
> numbers of 9's (0.99999*) (and so was no longer 'alpha').
>>>> Alpine is great! Alpine is dead?
>>> Development continues as re-alpine. Though I think this list is more
>>> active than that (haven't seen anything on realpine-devel for ages).
>> Is U Washington discontinuing support?
>> I'll have to look at re-alpine. October 2, 2010 was the last release...
>> not sure I'm ready to switch if it too is dead...
> UW discontinued support a looong time ago now (sometime in 2008, I think).
> They've pledged support for continuing the mailing list. And there was
> official word w/in the past six months(?) giving re-alpine official permission
> to use the name alpine for releases.
> I'd look up specific messages for ya, but the UW mailman interface seems to
> want to log me out after every pageview.
> Regardless, there will be no more releases of Alpine authored by UW. All
> continuing development is on re-alpine, but as you point out, it's been a
> while between releases. There hasn't been all that much dev activity, either.
> Nonetheless, what few devs there are are on this list, unless they've
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