[Alpine-info] creating a rule..

[Barry Landy]

On Tue, 30 Aug 2011, Joshua Miller wrote:


:>[top-post/bottom-post mess - I'm just following the last lead]

:>

:>I believe 2.02 is the latest release. See here (someone correct me if it's

:>moved elsewhere please, cause if it has, I'm curious where to):

:>http://sourceforge.net/projects/re-alpine/

:>

:>This can all be found via some google-ing, but I'll try to summarize (some

:>of this may be slightly inaccurate):


Minor changes inserted.


:>

:>* The orig software was by the University of Washington and called PINE (I

:>think it stood for POP, IMAP, NNTP & ESMTP).


Originally it was "Pine Is Not Elm" (Elm being an earlier IAMP mail 
client).


:>* They had their own software license that wasn't compatible with the GPL,

:>but was open source (though not "free software" by GNU standards).

:>* They (UW) discontinued support and development

... of Pine but continued it under the name Alpine so as to chance the 
license..


:>* The source was released under GPL as "alpine"


and UW developed it until release 2.0 at which point they ...


:>* UW froze the source tree, so to speak


 .. and announced that it was now up to the user community to carry it 
on if they wished.


:>* Someone/group forked it as "re-alpine", and got permission to keep the exe

:>name "alpine".

:>* Development of "alpine" which was "pine" continues now as "re-alpine" with

:>an exe named "alpine".

:>

:>There are download links on the sourceforge page. I believe the latest

:>windows version is 2.01, but you may want to google for "re-alpine" and see

:>if you find a 2.02 or later version.

:>

:>

:>In a separate reply, you asked about POP and deleting messages from the

:>server.

:>

:>Pine works best as an IMAP client, and second best as a local mail spool

:>reader and newsgroup reader. For POP, you should probably look into external

:>tools to download the messages as you see fit, such as "fetchmail" or

:>"getmail".

:>

:>See here for a way to do it from within pine:

:>http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#mvMaildrop

:>

:>There may be other ways, but I've never used them, so I can't comment on

:>that. If you haven't figured it out already, Pine can be configured a bunch

:>of ways with all sorts of tweaks. It works fine out of the box, but the

:>ability to make it suit your specific needs fairly easily in a multitude of

:>ways is its real strength. Most people will recommend either moving to an

:>IMAP server, or downloading the messages using fetchmail or getmail or

:>something of that ilk. More significantly, they're right.

:>

:>

:>FWIW, I personally download my mail via fetchmail from a MS Exchange server,

:>filtered through procmail, and written to local folders. I then have Dovecot

:>server up those local folders via a local (and intranet and vpn) IMAP

:>server, and re-alpine talks to the Dovecot server. May sound complex, but

:>for me, it's what I want, and it out performs anything else I've seen. Many

:>times a week, I'm on the phone with people that are part of a large email

:>thread, and when we all try to dig up some old email, I'm always the first

:>to find it. I'd love to say it's because I'm organized or because I know

:>what string to search for, but it's not. It's because of pines selection

:>mode (";" from message list), pine zoom ("z" from message list while any

:>messages are selected), and Dovecot's very very impressive speed.

:>

:>YMMV, HTH, all that stuff,

:>--

:>Josh I.

:>

:>On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 1:20 AM, Hans Stam <hansstam at kpnplanet.nl> wrote:

:>

:>> Thanks for the information..

:>> Is Alpine 2.00 the last version? Is there development in this software? I

:>> see here 2006-2008, so some time ago..

:>>

:>> Hans

:>>

:>>

:>> On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Matt Ackeret wrote:

:>>

:>>  On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Hans Stam wrote:

:>>>

:>>>> Thanks for the help.. and I have again tried and had success!

:>>>> This Alpine email program has many options and is very flexible and fast.

:>>>> Is that also the reason you use this program?

:>>>>

:>>>

:>>> 1) It's plain text (but also supports Unicode & yucky HTML email when

:>>> necessary)

:>>> 2) it's fast

:>>>

:>>

:>


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