[Alpine-info] creating a rule..
bl10 at cam.ac.uk
Tue Aug 30 00:11:16 PDT 2011
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011, Joshua Miller wrote:
:>[top-post/bottom-post mess - I'm just following the last lead]
:>I believe 2.02 is the latest release. See here (someone correct me if it's
:>moved elsewhere please, cause if it has, I'm curious where to):
:>This can all be found via some google-ing, but I'll try to summarize (some
:>of this may be slightly inaccurate):
Minor changes inserted.
:>* The orig software was by the University of Washington and called PINE (I
:>think it stood for POP, IMAP, NNTP & ESMTP).
Originally it was "Pine Is Not Elm" (Elm being an earlier IAMP mail
:>* They had their own software license that wasn't compatible with the GPL,
:>but was open source (though not "free software" by GNU standards).
:>* They (UW) discontinued support and development
... of Pine but continued it under the name Alpine so as to chance the
:>* The source was released under GPL as "alpine"
and UW developed it until release 2.0 at which point they ...
:>* UW froze the source tree, so to speak
.. and announced that it was now up to the user community to carry it
on if they wished.
:>* Someone/group forked it as "re-alpine", and got permission to keep the exe
:>* Development of "alpine" which was "pine" continues now as "re-alpine" with
:>an exe named "alpine".
:>There are download links on the sourceforge page. I believe the latest
:>windows version is 2.01, but you may want to google for "re-alpine" and see
:>if you find a 2.02 or later version.
:>In a separate reply, you asked about POP and deleting messages from the
:>Pine works best as an IMAP client, and second best as a local mail spool
:>reader and newsgroup reader. For POP, you should probably look into external
:>tools to download the messages as you see fit, such as "fetchmail" or
:>See here for a way to do it from within pine:
:>There may be other ways, but I've never used them, so I can't comment on
:>that. If you haven't figured it out already, Pine can be configured a bunch
:>of ways with all sorts of tweaks. It works fine out of the box, but the
:>ability to make it suit your specific needs fairly easily in a multitude of
:>ways is its real strength. Most people will recommend either moving to an
:>IMAP server, or downloading the messages using fetchmail or getmail or
:>something of that ilk. More significantly, they're right.
:>FWIW, I personally download my mail via fetchmail from a MS Exchange server,
:>filtered through procmail, and written to local folders. I then have Dovecot
:>server up those local folders via a local (and intranet and vpn) IMAP
:>server, and re-alpine talks to the Dovecot server. May sound complex, but
:>for me, it's what I want, and it out performs anything else I've seen. Many
:>times a week, I'm on the phone with people that are part of a large email
:>thread, and when we all try to dig up some old email, I'm always the first
:>to find it. I'd love to say it's because I'm organized or because I know
:>what string to search for, but it's not. It's because of pines selection
:>mode (";" from message list), pine zoom ("z" from message list while any
:>messages are selected), and Dovecot's very very impressive speed.
:>YMMV, HTH, all that stuff,
:>On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 1:20 AM, Hans Stam <hansstam at kpnplanet.nl> wrote:
:>> Thanks for the information..
:>> Is Alpine 2.00 the last version? Is there development in this software? I
:>> see here 2006-2008, so some time ago..
:>> On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Matt Ackeret wrote:
:>> On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Hans Stam wrote:
:>>>> Thanks for the help.. and I have again tried and had success!
:>>>> This Alpine email program has many options and is very flexible and fast.
:>>>> Is that also the reason you use this program?
:>>> 1) It's plain text (but also supports Unicode & yucky HTML email when
:>>> 2) it's fast
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