[Alpine-info] Backing up gmail messages with alpine

[Doug Barton]

On 1/21/2011 6:16 AM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:

> The original and classic behavior of mail lists was NOT to send a copy

> of the message to the sender.  You just assumed it got received.  If it

> didn't get received, you would get a postmaster rejection, right?


I think this depends on your value of "original." :)  Back in the 90's 
when connections were less reliable and the preeminent mailing list 
solution was majordomo not only was the typical behavior for the list to 
send you a copy of your own mail, it was considered DIScourteous not to 
cc the person you were responding to since it was very likely that your 
direct message would be received before the list mail. In fact I have 
fond memories of both carrying on, and viewing conversations on mailing 
lists and usenet that had happened in full days before the same messages 
were seen on the public forums.

In the 00's when connections got more reliable, mail relays were usually 
up 24x7x365, and new mailing list software was introduced, options 
appeared to avoid sending copies of your own message from the list to 
you. IIUC even in mailman that option defaults to off, but I think it's 
nice that it is there for people who care deeply about such things.

Meanwhile, now we are well into the 10's and I still (occasionally) see 
times when the cc arrives well before the same message sent to the list, 
although nowadays that's usually hours instead of days. :)


hth,

Doug (first line of .sig seems even more particularly appropriate ...)

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