[Alpine-info] display of html content

[Benjamin R. Haskell]

On Sat, 19 Nov 2011, Peter G. wrote:


> XIV Kal. Dec. MMXI AUC quidam/quædam/quoddam 'Mike Miller' inquit:

>

>> On Fri, 18 Nov 2011, Doug Barton wrote:

>> 

>>> On 11/17/2011 10:59, romkra at gmx.net wrote:

>>> 

>>>> A late comment on using Thunderbird and alpine on the same mail 

>>>> folder:

>>>> 

>>>> Mike Miller wrote on 2011-11-12:

>>>> 

>>>>> I've been annoyed by Thunderbird's behavior -- every time I fire 

>>>>> it up it creates one .msf file for every mail folder (a.k.a. mbox 

>>>>> file) in my ~/mail directory.

>>> 

>>> That's normal behavior. It's part of how thunderbird works.

>> 

>> Yes, it's "normal" for Thunderbird to annoy me with a bunch of 

>> unwanted files.  A better Thunderbird would have a different kind of 

>> normal behavior where it spewed it's annoying files into a 

>> subdirectory, possible one called .thunderbird.


Thunderbird doesn't expect that you'll be using its local folders with 
other programs.



> Sorry if that has already been suggested, I didn't read the whole 

> thread, but the easiest way for me to use *pine and Thunderbird in 

> parallel is to let TB connect via IMAP.

>

> It's really easy to install uw-imap and let it listen on 

> localhost:imap


I was about to respond w/ the same suggestion, except to suggest Dovecot 
instead of uw-imap (personal preference).

Using both Alpine and Thunderbird against the same set of local files is 
bound to lead to issues.  Depending on what version of Thunderbird 
you're using, its mbox-like file format (mboxrd¹) isn't the same as what 
Alpine uses by default (mbox).  (Rules for 'From ' quoting differ. 
Thunderbird 3.1.11 on Linux seems to use straight mbox, not mboxrd.)

¹: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jonathan.deboynepollard/FGA/mail-mbox-formats.html#mboxrd


> TB will then do most of its house-holding in its own profile. (The 

> same goes for other potential accessors of mail, like KDEs akonadi 

> etc.)

>

> *pine can then connect via IMAP as well, or just continue to use local 

> file access. (There *might* be issues wrt locking and concurrent 

> access there but I haven't experienced any so far.)


I would also expect locking issues.  Thunderbird (3.1.11 on Linux) 
doesn't appear to do any locking at all when using 'Mail/Local Folders' 
(based on `strace -e trace=open,fcntl,flock thunderbird`).

-- 
Best,
Ben