Hackneyed stereotyped conventional ignorance about amputation

[Joe Alessi]

George,
   Once again you display a shortcoming in your understanding of "Rational". 
Please don't take this as an insult. It's not. Don't even take my word for 
it. Psychology is not my forte'. My experience is limited to what I learned 
Boinking Psych majors in college. (So easy)

  Lets look at the case of a man who methodically took a revolver, loaded 
it, stalked his victims by carefully planning where they would be, then shot 
them. Why? Because Satan, incarnated in his Black Labrador Retriever, Told 
him to do so. Is he insane? Irrational? Not at all.

   His methods prove the ability to reason, predict and anticipate a known 
outcome. (See Commonwealth of New York Vs. David Berkowitz.) If he were 
irrational, he would have shot them with a Banana. Unaware of the outcome 
and unable to reason the choice of weapons.

   Here's another. A man has a penchant for roasted Negro. He carefully 
plans to lure them to his home. Butchers them, then renders them. Packaging 
the meat and storing it in his freezer for later consumption. After dining 
on their brisket.

  Now you would think that by virtue of their actions it would prove beyond 
doubt they were irrational. Not! In fact their actions proved they were 
fully aware and capable. They knew exactly what they were doing and why. 
They predicted the outcome of their actions. (See United States of America 
Vs. Jeffrey Dalmer)

   Now the question is in regards to the preposed gun to your head. Do you 
know what will happen when you pull the trigger? Is there a reason you 
choose to use a gun instead of the loaded banana? Are you capable of 
reasoning and predicting the anticipated outcome of your actions?

   Then you are making a rational decision. Case dismissed (BOKK!!!)

  While you may think your mental/emotional motivation compells you, your 
calculated response proves it does not by virtue of your chosen response. 
This is refered to as, "Poor Judgement". An inappropriate response to a 
given stimulus. (He stole my pencil so I shot him to death) Somehow I get 
the feeling you've heard all this before.

  If you still can't grasp the concept let me know and I'll be happy to send 
you thousands of examples to support this. If it's embarrassing then take it 
private. You have my address and I'm here to help. Or keep blowing your 
"Bubbles". S'all the same to me. Just don't make it personal.

Joe Alessi


>From: George Boyer <feenix2 at bellsouth.net>
>Reply-To: amp-l at u.washington.edu
>To: "Amputee Information Network" <amp-l at u.washington.edu>
>Subject: Re: Hackneyed stereotyped conventional ignorance about amputation
>Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 23:41:50 -0500
>
>Hi Mark - Some people here refuse to examine the covert emotional basis of 
>some
>of their 'rational' ideas.  They seem to think these ways of a person's 
>activity
>are separated into isolated compartments.  Joe, the mildest of them, thinks 
>that
>calling something elective makes it irreversibly rational.  But life just 
>isn't
>like a debate on the internet.  George B.
>
>
>
>MTSoft6224 at aol.com wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 2/1/00 12:50:30 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> > jralessi at hotmail.com writes:
> >
> > > >Question:  What is "elective" about an amputation performed under
> > >  >obsessive-compulsive duress as the only alternative to suicide?
> > >
> > >  It's still a choice George. Some choose suicide. Either way, each is  
>very
> > >  much an elective.
> > >
>

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