Phantom pain

[Michael F. Chamness]

Its nice to know all that after-the fact, Mr. Barr. The part about holding
the urine to obtain more holding power is interesting. If its held long
enough, supposedly kidney stones will form, making for a much more exciting
and stimulating experience indeed! Following my surgery for removal of the
offending limb, I asked the surgeon what he did with the nerves and muscles
that he cut. He said, "we just pull them out as far as they will go, and let
them snap back into the fat and tissue, where they find their own holding
place." Do you suppose that's true?
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Michael F. Chamness
PO Box 22
Montpelier, ND 58472
chamness at daktel.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "t-barr at t-barr.com" <darr9715 at bellsouth.net>
To: "Amputee Information Network" <amp-l at u.washington.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 2:42 PM
Subject: RE: Phantom pain


> "The longer the pain before amputation ,the longer or more intense of post
> op phantom pain afterwards.."
>
> I remember after consuming large amounts of beer during college days, that
a
> a similar philosophy was based on delaying urination so that would you
> urinate less frequently.
> Everyone is entitled of making opinions so mine is that both of these
belong
> in the toliet?
>
> Interesting points of view but hardly viable-most likely the sensation of
> phantom pain is escalated as the result of less than adequate surgery that
> would help eliminate nerve ending regeneration into forming nueromas, lack
> of muscle tissue reattachment causing instability of tyhe stump in the
> socket, and improper cordorizing and placement of blood vessels and
arteries
> in the stump that could remain active and stimulate even more nerve
growth.
>
> Many amputees describe their phantom pain as a pulsing feeling which would
> explain the blood flow from being simultaneous with one's heart beats.
>
> Promote proper amputation surgery and you will be diminishing the
frequency
> of phantom pain.
> Tony Barr
> Barr Foundation
> www.oandp.com/barr
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMP-L-owner at u.washington.edu
> [mailto:AMP-L-owner at u.washington.edu]On Behalf Of Thom Bloomquist
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 6:31 AM
> To: Amputee Information Network
> Subject: Phantom pain
>
>
> - the longer the pain before amputation, the longer or more intense the
> phantom pain afterwards.
>
> Michael,
>
> Your theory runs parallel to my understanding.  Another variable, although
> two might have the same painful stimuli - how we respond might be
different.
> A Billion sets of chemistries walking around this planet and each just a
tad
> different.  Different skin color, eye color and hair color - how we
respond
> to illness and injury also varies.  That's why some of us are bothered by
> phantom and others, having gone through similar experiences, might have
> few/none.
>
>  rodgerole at mail.ev1.net posted an inclusive list of treatments. I would
like
> to add one that works for me.  He/she (?) mentioned TENS.  Tens was a step
> in the right direction but The micro-current technology called Alpha-
Stim,
> takes my phantoms away very quickly.  It's very safe and non-ivasive.
Since
> all meds have side effects and complications - some thing this safe and
> effective is great.  This doesn't mean it will work for everyone in the
same
> way - nothing does.  However, its worked on every amputee, I have put it
on.
>
> Thom
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