pocket linux (was Never mind)

R. David Whitlock ryandav at u.washington.edu
Tue Aug 15 22:26:13 PDT 2000


Shoot, I'm a dork, sorry, I forgot, goto to gibraltar.gianova.net page...

dam bookmark

-D
				        Work like you don't need money, 
        				Love like you've never been hurt,
				        Dance like nobody's watching.

On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Adam Stenseth wrote:

> 
> Mmmmmm, interesting.  The site requires authentication, however, which
> I'll wager the majority of us don't have ;]
> 
> -adam
> 
> 	It is always preferable to visit home with a friend.  Your
> parents will not be pleased with this plan, because they want you all
> to themselves and because in the presence of your friend, they will
> have to act like mature human beings ...
> 		-- Playboy, January 1983
> 
> On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, R. David Whitlock wrote:
> 
> > Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 22:18:09 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: R. David Whitlock <ryandav at u.washington.edu>
> > Reply-To: linux at u.washington.edu
> > To: UW Linux Group <linux at u.washington.edu>
> > Subject: Re: pocket linux (was Never mind)
> > 
> > For information on gibraltar, and a link to the ISO, go to the URL below:
> > http://mail.vianova.at/mailman/private/gibraltar/2000-July/000001.html
> > 
> > Here are some links to similar items:
> > 	http://www.linuxrouter.org
> > 	http://lrp.c0wz.com
> > 
> > lrp = linux router project, also based on debian
> > I know someone using lrp from this site:
> > http://lrp.steinkuehler.net
> > 
> > -David				        Work like you don't need money, 
> >         				Love like you've never been hurt,
> > 				        Dance like nobody's watching.
> > 
> > On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Adam Stenseth wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > So... What is Gibraltar?  ISO's available for d/l anywhere?
> > > 
> > > -adam
> > > 
> > > Distress, n.:
> > > 	A disease incurred by exposure to the prosperity of a friend.
> > > 		-- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, R. David Whitlock wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:03:42 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > From: R. David Whitlock <ryandav at u.washington.edu>
> > > > Reply-To: linux at u.washington.edu
> > > > To: UW Linux Group <linux at u.washington.edu>
> > > > Subject: pocket linux (was Never mind)
> > > > 
> > > > Also, check out gibraltar, a debian based, all on one bootable cd, never
> > > > touch the hard drive style firewall.  We just went through the whole
> > > > "Should we include sniffers, packet manipulation tools,etc" type
> > > > discussion, because the author had similar concerns about a legitimate
> > > > security tool being used for other than honorable intentions.  
> > > > 
> > > > My point, whch she agreed on, was that any serious attacker is going to
> > > > have at their disposal some sort of root kit or whatever, which would
> > > > include anything not included by default on gibraltar.  So why make it
> > > > harder for genuine sysadmin people to use those same tools?  We cannot, in
> > > > tool design, make judgements about what we will provide based on fear of
> > > > what we give the enemy, i think.  Attackers will always have access to
> > > > sysadmin tools, as well as others that may not be as well known to real
> > > > system administrators.  Consider NMAP, for example.  It's used by both
> > > > sides of the fence, and although it is 'optimized' for certain malicious
> > > > uses, it's just as important to sysadmins for those very reasons...
> > > > 
> > > > Delicious, isn't it?
> > > > 
> > > > -D
> > > > 				        Work like you don't need money, 
> > > >         				Love like you've never been hurt,
> > > > 				        Dance like nobody's watching.
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Adam Stenseth wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Pocket linux is kind of neat.  It stores quite a bit on 1 floppy.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > My guess, however, with mike being 1337 as he is, had
> > > > > trinux. (www.trinux.org)
> > > > > 
> > > > > I thought LOAF was fun(loaf.ecks.org) tho not terribly useful.
> > > > > 
> > > > > www.toms.net/rb/ has several good links.
> > > > > 
> > > > > As for the worthiness of them...  Well, that depends on what you want to
> > > > > do.  Floppy-bootable linux dists have all sorts of insidious applications,
> > > > > if they fall into the wrong hands.  But they can also be terribly useful
> > > > > for recovery/repair and, in certain situations, IDS/IH.
> > > > > 
> > > > > And of course, no one here would ever use one of them for anything but the
> > > > > most benevolent purposes. ;]
> > > > > 
> > > > > -adam
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Doug McLean wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:32:31 PDT
> > > > > > From: Doug McLean <pho_kin at hotmail.com>
> > > > > > Reply-To: linux at u.washington.edu
> > > > > > To: UW Linux Group <linux at u.washington.edu>
> > > > > > Subject: Never mind
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I am a total retard.  Forget my last email.  I was not reading the 
> > > > > > instructions as thoroughly as I should.  That's what you get for reading 
> > > > > > debian instructions at work...er..I mean someplace far away... (yeah, that's 
> > > > > > the ticket)....
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > So what about Pocket Linux?  I once saw Mike Hornung with one of those.  Is 
> > > > > > it worth it?
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