[linux] I will be setting up 2 linux servers

[Phillip Garland]

I agree that Stable would be great for most servers *if it supports
your hardware* Unfortunately the 2.2.20 and 2.4.18 kernels lack
support for some hardware released in the past two years.

I also agree that the Debian hackers are great wrt security updates
for Stable. The post I was replying to seemed to advocate installing
Testing on a server. But Testing is not supported by the Debian
security team so it's generally not a good choice for a server: (from
http://www.debian.org/security/faq#testing)

"Q: How is security handled for testing and unstable?

A: The short answer is: it's not. Testing and unstable are rapidly
moving targets and the security team does not have the resources
needed to properly support those. If you want to have a secure (and
stable) server you are strongly encouraged to stay with
stable. However, the security secretaries will try to fix problems in
testing and unstable after they are fixed in the stable release."

~Phillip


On Wed, 7 Jul 2004, Jesse Weigert wrote:

>Those disadvantages are actually what I consider it's greatest advantages
>for most servers.  Since stuff in stable is so old, it has been tested and
>is usually rock-solid.  They are also VERY good about security updates.
>
>-Jesse
>
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>If the system is connected to the internet, you probably don't want to run
>"Testing" (Sarge). Testing is the slowest to receive security updates
>(Packages don't move from Unstable to Testing unless they've had no Releas=
e
>Critical bug reports for a 10 day period, IIRC).
>
>Unfortunately, Stable (Woody) is so old (you get to choose between Linux
>2.2.20 or 2.4.18, IIRC) that it doesn't support some recent hardware. Of
>course, you'd always have the choice of upgrading the kernel and XFree86,
>either by pulling packages from a 3rd party repository, or by rolling your
>own.
>
>I love Debian, but be aware of the tradeoffs imposed by its release cycle
>when using it on a production system.
>
>~Phillip
>
>On Wed, 7 Jul 2004, K. David Prince wrote:
>
>>Question is: What do you want to run on your servers?  If it's all
>>off-the-shelf applications, you might want to consider Debian.  The
>>package management system alone is well worth the effort of installing
>>Debian.  The "new" testing repository installed a complete system via
>>the net as smooth as glass on one of our HP machines.
>>
>>Go to <http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/> for a look.
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>On Wed, 7 Jul 2004, Jairo O. Pi=F1eros wrote:
>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I need some help.  I am building 2 linux servers for the Graduate
>>> Medical Education.  We have to purchase 2 copies of RedHat Enterprise
>>> Linux AS Version 3.  The servers will be HP.
>>>
>>> . How do I go about this?
>>>
>>> . Does campus have a license?
>>>
>>> . Does it include support? Or
>>>
>>> . Where do we support from?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> . Does any recommend a particular HP servers?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> PS. FYI - I will NOT be in the office July 8th and 9th.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> --Jairo O. Pi=F1eros, UW Medicine, IT Services
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