nutrient loss in vegetables

[Linda Bobroff]

FDA has a bias ... yes that they don't want people to get sick from eating
contaminated foods.  Washing sprouts will not get rid of Salmonella bacteria
is they are present.
Just a little matter of Netiquette on list serves:  It's customary to
include your name and affiliation when you post a message.  It is considered
the polite thing to do, and does let everyone who receives your message who
you are and what your affiliation is. Thanks.
Linda Bobroff, Univ of Florida


> -----Original Message-----

> From: PHNUTR-L-owner at u.washington.edu

> [mailto:PHNUTR-L-owner at u.washington.edu]On Behalf Of Robert Heltman

> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 11:55 AM

> To: Public Health Nutrition Discussion and Information Group

> Subject: RE: nutrient loss in vegetables

>

>

> Yes, and the FDA has a bias.  Fresh food should be washed.  See

> www.organicgardening.com and the "manure" issue brought up by the TV 20/20

> program.

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: PHNUTR-L-owner at u.washington.edu

> [mailto:PHNUTR-L-owner at u.washington.edu]On Behalf Of Linda Bobroff

> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 11:52 AM

> To: Public Health Nutrition Discussion and Information Group

> Subject: RE: nutrient loss in vegetables

>

>

> Don't have time right now to address everything that was brought

> up in this

> long message, but I do want to mention that the Food and Drug

> Administration

> has issued an advisory about eating raw sprouts.  There have been several

> Salmonella outbreaks associated with eating raw sprouts.  Home grown pose

> risk as well as commercially prepared.  See FDA's website for

> more info ...

> www.fda.gov

> Linda Bobroff, Univ of Florida

>

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: PHNUTR-L-owner at u.washington.edu

> > [mailto:PHNUTR-L-owner at u.washington.edu]On Behalf Of Robert Heltman

> > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 11:04 AM

> > To: Public Health Nutrition Discussion and Information Group

> > Subject: RE: nutrient loss in vegetables

> >

> >

> > Dear Nutritionists all...

> >

> > We need a new term.  Fresh fruits and vegetables are only fresh

> when they

> > are fresh, at the risk of stating the obvious.  "Fresh" vegetables left

> > lying around, or suffering long transport, are no longer fresh.

>  They are

> > stale, or a word like that.  Maybe the term should be STALE vegetables.

> > Same as fresh fish left lying on the dock in the sun for a couple

> > hours are

> > not fresh fish.  They are rancid fish.

> >

> > The best nutrition comes from eating freshly picked organic fruits and

> > vegetables, in the prime of ripeness, right off the tree, from

> > the bush, dug

> > from the ground.  And, to get the beneficial enzymes, fresh

> > produce is best

> > eaten raw immediately after harvest.  Not cooked.

> >

> > To get that peak nutrition means people growing their own

> > gardens, engaging

> > in subscription farming (now about 1000 such farms serving locals, and

> > growing), or buying early in the day from local farmers

> bringing in fresh

> > produce.  Remember those "good old days?"  But, the longer the harvested

> > "fresh" food is delayed in getting into the mouth, the more vitamins are

> > lost, as you know from various studies.  Cooling helps delay

> losses some.

> >

> > The national farm policies since the 1930s or so, according to

> experts in

> > that arena, have favored large scale industrial corporate

> > farming.  This has

> > led to loss of fertile topsoil, nitrogen pollution of wells, streams,

> > rivers, and loss of nutrient content in food (again, see

> > www.organicgardening.com).  It has also led to growing larger

> cities with

> > all their problems, eliminating smaller towns and their more social and

> > caring ways of life, etc.  And it means that food is transported long

> > distances (can someone get the source on this), approx. 1500

> miles for the

> > average meal, I recently heard.  This adds to cost, to pollution, to

> > needless energy consumption versus growing and eating local foodstuffs.

> >

> > In the case of corporate farming it is "true" that a large freezer truck

> > following the field harvest, and packaging the frozen food on the

> > spot, DOES

> > produce better quality food than "stale-rancid" produce.  But, it

> > is still a

> > second choice versus truly fresh produce.  Per my message a

> month or more

> > back, mankind has done a masterful job of producing "mummy food"

> > in various

> > forms — canning, pickling, freezing, irradiating, smoking, etc.

>  They are

> > ALL second choices to eating truly fresh raw organic produce

> right out of

> > the garden.*  Don't kid yourselves otherwise.

> >

> > Sooner or later studies will show what common sense indicates.

> >

> > Bests, Bob

> >

> > *I have a row of kale surviving through the winter, here in North

> > Carolina.

> > You'd be amazed how wonderful it is to step out my back door,

> > walk into the

> > garden, tweak off a leaf or two, shake away the dew, tuck into my

> > mouth, and

> > slowly chew and swallow.  YUMMY and so good for me!  I wish all

> > the world's

> > citizens could be so blessed.  More of them could be with a change in

> > federal farm policies to favor smaller organic farms, with proper

> > education...why even city folks could grow their own sprouts in

> > an apartment

> > window.  Ever try a fresh sprout sandwich or salad?  GOOD and great

> > nutrition.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: PHNUTR-L-owner at u.washington.edu

> > [mailto:PHNUTR-L-owner at u.washington.edu]On Behalf Of Elizabeth Frazao

> > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 9:58 AM

> > To: Public Health Nutrition Discussion and Information Group

> > Subject: Re: nutrient loss in vegetables

> >

> >

> > I've seen some research showing that frozen or canned vegetables may

> > even be more nutritious than fresh ones because they are processed

> > shortly after harvest, when their nutrient content is highest, whereas

> > fresh produce may not be consumed until several weeks after harvest.

> > Check out the following website:

> > http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/CoopExt/PUBS/COLUMNNN/nn970122.htm

> >

> > The Agriculture Research Service of the U.S. Dept. of Agriculture has

> > a food composition and nutrient data base.  Check out

> > http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp  and  look for the USDA Nutrient

> > Database for Standard Reference - Release 13, which includes info on

> > nutrient retention factors.

> >

> >

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