[Pine-info] Re: get out of Busy state
beartooth at adelphia.net
Tue Sep 5 08:51:57 PDT 2006
On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Curt Sampson wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Sep 2006, Beartooth Staffwright wrote:
>> Having to react instantly, finger poised already on correct key, and
>> still not succeed half the time, intensifies the purple. I can't think
>> of anything else in all of pine that I so detest.
> Errors in general. I miss errors all the time, because the message goes
> away too quickly. Or I sit there for second after second, waiting for
> several seconds each for error after error to disappear after I've read
> it. It would be hard to design something to be more annoying.
> Errors should just appear in a separate window, not interrupting normal
> progress, with a "hotkey" of some sort, not used elsewhere, to
> acknowledge them.
Good point! I have the same problem, just not so often;
but it is indeed irritating. Whether a separate window -- I
presume you mean a little popup -- or something else would
be better, I won't try to say; but I'd like *something* that
waits for an acknowledgement, and then goes away.
Refinement: popups that announce problems and contain
only an OK button are also frustrating. I'd rather have a
second option or two, such as "tell me more" or "try again"
or something leaving the subtechnoid user less helpless in
front of something utterly alien.
Incidentally, in the case I mentioned, I happen to have
direct access to the same server (a mailserver at
fastmail.fm), though I prefer to check it through pine
(partly because it's mainly a backup, and there's seldom
anything interesting there). So I did eventually check the
direct way. Turned out the server was down. Had been and
remained so for several hours, while someone there worked on
it, no doubt frantically. I could've gone on beating my head
and keyboard against it, holding up access to pine,
fruitlessly, for all those hours.
Now, I don't suppose Pine can tell whether a server is
down, or one of the routers inside Adelphia my Utterly
Accursed ISP is down again, or what. But I concur, in the
other cases as well as this one, in wanting more control,
and access to any relevant info available in a particular
Beartooth Sciurivore, Double Retiree, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert
Remember, I have precious little idea what I am talking about.
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