[Pine-info] RE: [Alpine-info] Cannot save messages into INBOX
on local spool?
bret at busby.net
Mon Aug 11 20:42:42 PDT 2008
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008, M.RossARR wrote:
> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 00:18:11 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
> From: M.RossARR <mrossarr at nixsyspaus.org>
> Reply-To: Alpine Discussion Forum <alpine-info at u.washington.edu>
> To: Alpine Discussion Forum <alpine-info at u.washington.edu>
> Cc: Pine Discussion Forum <pine-info at u.washington.edu>
> Subject: [Pine-info] RE: [Alpine-info] Cannot save messages into INBOX on
> local spool?
> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008, Mark Crispin wrote:
>>> BTW I saw in another message something about Alpine going away... is that
>>> true? I just discovered it about a month ago after running on PC-Pine for
>>> years. I hate to think I got here at the end of the party. If it is going
>>> away is it going to be replaced by something else?
>> The University of Washington spent a large sum of money every year to pay
>> the salaries of the people who brought your Pine, Alpine, and IMAP. They
>> are not going to do it any more;
> I can understand & appreciate the financial load. But that is part
> of the software development effort that all universities experience
> in their functions. That is also part of an internal learning &
> teaching process unique to universities. The U of Washington, &
> development crew possess much to be proud of for Pine, Alpine, &
>> and in fact announced that since Microsoft,
>> Google, Yahoo, etc. provide email services for free, email is no longer an
>> essential internal service.
> That seems irrelevant, as email service is one thing, software
> development another. However, email service is very essential,
> internal or external. I would never rely on one email service
> provider, especially like the list above. Free service as such is
> flaky, unreliable too often, & still needs a good email client
> software as the webpage access interface is often poor at best.
> Pine/Alpine/IMAP is necessary! No other software I find equates!
>> It is time for the "free software" community to take over the development,
>> maintenance, and distribution of this software. They have claimed for many
>> years that they want to do so, and that UW should give up its intellectual
>> property rights to its software to the "free software" community. UW has
>> now done so.
> I hope that is all true. The U of Washington Pine, Alpine, & IMAP
> development crew however created the finest email client software I
> can find, & I hope that creation is not lost from here. Possibly
> some U of Washington effort will continue to be involved, whether
> formal or informal. It is always a major loss to loose the brains
> behind brilliant creations.
> The Best to You & Yours,
> M. Ross All Rights Reserved
> mrossarr at nixsyspaus.org
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> Hanoi John is done, stick a fork in him, sidetrack
> him, & get Ron Paul on the Nov 2008 ballot for GOP!
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I have just seen the above message, and, this is the first time that I
have seen any reference to, or any mention of, the University of
Washington abandoning all of PINE, ALPINE, and IMAP.
Has this previously been posted to this list, and, is it true?
"So once you do know what the question actually is,
you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
"The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
A Trilogy In Four Parts",
written by Douglas Adams,
published by Pan Books, 1992
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